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    Post by 71ford100 on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:01 pm

    Been watching for a good old Ford diesel 4x4 to get me around this winter since I don't trust drivers in Denver around the POS Cobra.....anyways I have been watching a '94 with turbo and a 88 F-250 non turbo'd 7.3's both regular cabs 4x4 with 4.10 rears and 5 speeds. Identically bid on the '94 thinking that I was bidding on the 88 still has a couple days left. The 94 has some dings and dents (ex ranch truck is my guess) and has 90,000 miles. The 88 shows 35 but is in better shape, better tires, but a god awful black and red color.

    What are trucks like this bringing in your area? The 88 is at 1200 and the 94 is at 1600
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    Post by 71ford100 on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:09 pm

    ' 94:
    http://www.bigiron.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?bigiron28/83277/1

    '88:
    http://www.bigiron.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?bigiron29/84167
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    Post by Admin on Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:13 am

    the 94 is a better truck---the wiring harness of the 88 yr models is highly suspect(read "will cause u grief")

    lots of bargains out there--u could get an easy 2500 for the 94--maybe, and probably more than that


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    Post by spartman on Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:21 am

    Hell, I'd drive that 88 loud and proud man!!

    If I could get the money from the old lady Id be bidding on that one.

    Sure as hell would send the 80 chevy to the great crush yard in the sky.


    88 dont have the in valve wiring, I dont think.

    I think the 88 was still pre-power stroke.

    Round here anything diesel is either dirt cheap and wore out(if you can find it) or a minimum of 10 grand.


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    Post by Admin on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:05 am

    Spart---the 88 gas engined trucks have faulty wiring harnesses--i know of 3 instances where they would not act the same way twice--new harness or change to carb solved the problem--diesels??--idk

    looks like the interest on the 88 is low--snap it up Lance


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    Post by spartman on Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:20 pm

    Ahh I see JD.

    Thought you meant the wiring for the engine.

    My bad.


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    Post by willowbilly3 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:44 pm

    Those old IDI engines don't have much of a following and price reflects that. $2500 will buy a real nice 92-93 7.3 IDI 4x4 5 speed around here. The older body styles less and automatics even less. I know a guy who has a good old 6.9 IDI 4x4 with automatic that I'm pretty sure $600 would buy it. Supposedly has low miles on rebuild but there's an oil leak in the timing cover somewhere.
    Step up to a power stroke and it's a whole different story, even the 94-96 4x4s can still bring close to 10 grand if they are nice.
    I'm sure liking my 2000 PS. 2wd suites me fine and it rides real nice, but it is that stretched out wheel base. It's gonna yank some change out of me to put tires on it real soon though.
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    Post by spartman on Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:11 pm

    How hard would it be to fix that oil leak?

    For that kind of money I could easily sell off my 80 and take that money and get that 6.9.

    hmmmmmmmmm


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    Post by willowbilly3 on Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:48 pm

    Don't know, maybe have to pull the timing cover. It has been setting a few years now, no doubt needs batterys, de-moused, ect.
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    Post by spartman on Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:17 pm

    Oh well. If its been setting that long, the tranny has probably gone bad too.

    For some reason trannys dont last very long setting round. At least the autos.


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    Post by spartman on Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:25 am

    One thing I did read is that the 6.9/7.3's used the same bolt pattern and were designed using the old IH gasser engines.

    Wasnt the 345 family but the next one up.

    Soooooo, if a feller had an IH that used that bigger engine, it would bolt right up and I believe not be much heaver that the gasser in there......

    Hint hint JD


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    Post by Admin on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:32 am

    good info,sparty---i have 345 and 392--they are the same block--304 was a "small block"---i really don't know what the next up would be except for an early diesel engine--i'll have to do some looking

    i would probably throw some coil spacers in the front coils initially and upgrade down the road if it didn't act right


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    Post by Admin on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:39 am

    Lance---when i lived in Denver--circa 1977--i had a 1966 olds delta 88--bought it from a friend's wife--she was from allentown,pa--it had been her college car--it was dinged on all four corners--i could run down I 25 during rush hour and it was like Moses parting the Red Sea--no worries yeah--it had that big block--thinking 425 or some such--starfire??--it ran like a bat outta hell and you could physically SEE the gas gauge drop as u went affraid


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    Post by spartman on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:30 pm

    Here is some info that I found about the 6.9 being based on an IH engine:

    It came from here: http://www.moddedraptor.com/community/off-topic/2805-know-your-idi-history-ford-diesel-101-a.html

    There is some debate that the 6.9 was a dieselized version of International’s 446 cid gasoline engine that was widely used in the 1970’s. The 6.9 did mimic the appearance and manufacturing technology of the 446, but was a whole new design. It implemented improvements such as oil squirters to cool the pistons, hardened nodular iron crankshaft, four bolt main crank caps, and roller lifters to name a few. The new 6.9 had 30% more power than GM’s 6.2 diesel.


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    Post by Admin on Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:32 am

    holy fuckin shit--446--never heard of it--i knew they used a amc 401--and that was a gawd awful big ass hunk o steel---now ya got me lookin--446--sheesh lou-ee--zee--cut my legs off and call me shorty--bout all i can say is that if it is truly 54 cubic inches badder than a 392 then by gawd--that's all--just--by gawd Shocked


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